Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
- SousaWarrior9
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
Dang!
"Some men are macho men. Others are Martin men"
It's that word "handcraft"...
It's that word "handcraft"...
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roughrider
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
A tremendous find and in such good shape for an older instrument! Enjoy it!

1930 King "Symphony" Recording Bass BBb
1916 Holton "Mammoth" Upright Bass BBb
1994 King 2341 Upright Bass BBb
Wedge H2 Solo mouthpieces
Stofer-Geib mouthpieces
1916 Holton "Mammoth" Upright Bass BBb
1994 King 2341 Upright Bass BBb
Wedge H2 Solo mouthpieces
Stofer-Geib mouthpieces
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Kirley
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
Beautiful!
Very interesting neck.
Those are the original neck and bits?
Any chance you could post a close up of them?
I wish all neck/bits were screw tightened. I'm tired of friction fit.
Very interesting neck.
Those are the original neck and bits?
Any chance you could post a close up of them?
I wish all neck/bits were screw tightened. I'm tired of friction fit.
- edsel585960
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
Yummy!!!! 
Conn 20-21 J
Conn 10J, Conn 26 K, Martin Mammoth, Mirafone 186, Soviet Helicon, Holton Raincatcher Sousaphone, Yamaha 103, King 1240.
Conn 10J, Conn 26 K, Martin Mammoth, Mirafone 186, Soviet Helicon, Holton Raincatcher Sousaphone, Yamaha 103, King 1240.
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humBell
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
Ah shucks.
I can't take credit for anything more than bein' bored and checking local craigslist and ebay every now and again. Didn't realize how big this was. Thanks for bein' smarter than i (me?) and gettin' it and then sharin' here so as we all can appreciate it!
I also owe Tabor thanks for a bunch of things, most recently for the salami logs which were dinner for me and a friend on our way back to Boston.
I can't take credit for anything more than bein' bored and checking local craigslist and ebay every now and again. Didn't realize how big this was. Thanks for bein' smarter than i (me?) and gettin' it and then sharin' here so as we all can appreciate it!
I also owe Tabor thanks for a bunch of things, most recently for the salami logs which were dinner for me and a friend on our way back to Boston.
Thanks for playing!
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Wayne Rice
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
It's lighter because the bell on a sousaphone can weigh a ton.
Keep playing, because expression is life.
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humBell
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
And even if they weighed the same, it might be perceived as lighter if it is better balanced.
I wonder if there is like a lever arm scale of sousas? Kinda like windchill.
It's only a 20lb sousa, but it is as awkward to carry as a 30lber because the bell sticks out so far.
I wonder if there is like a lever arm scale of sousas? Kinda like windchill.
It's only a 20lb sousa, but it is as awkward to carry as a 30lber because the bell sticks out so far.
Thanks for playing!
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iattp
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
You mention the recent interest in using helicons, and I share that. Do we know why it's becoming more popular? I've got my ideas, but I thought to ask.
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Červeny Bb helicon - Brandon
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Kirley
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
I’ve had the Wessex BBb helicon for a few years now. I play it more than my other horns. The simple reason, it’s more comfortable due to the lower center of gravity.
Like humBell mentioned above, it’s got less of a windchill factor.
Like humBell mentioned above, it’s got less of a windchill factor.
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Michael Grant
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Re: Holton BBb Mammoth Helicon from 1912
If you want to hear one of these in action, go to this YouTube channel. William’s has been modified by Martin Wilk. I played and heard many times before the modifications and it was a monster horn then. Great find!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO5qw7 ... uX4Z-CFGUA" target="_blank
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO5qw7 ... uX4Z-CFGUA" target="_blank
Michael Grant
Wessex HB24 BBb Helicon
King 2341
Wessex HB24 BBb Helicon
King 2341