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- Chuck(G)
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Well.... after reading the 'Indiana' statistics I'm going to quit worrying about it. I'm supposed to be FAT 

Dan Schultz
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- Doug@GT
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I was wondering the same thing...so what if there's a "national policy paralysis"?bloke wrote:...but why am I supposed to g.a.s. about what the federal government might or might not do about it (except what they will charge me for not minding their own fat-*** business) ?
Those who can lose weight through normal means can exercise their own initiative, instead of waiting for the gubment to do it.
Those who won't lose weight by normal means won't be affected by the suggested policies on that site.
Doug "who's state ranks 12th"
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- Chuck(G)
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Good point.Doug@GT wrote:I was wondering the same thing...so what if there's a "national policy paralysis"?bloke wrote:...but why am I supposed to g.a.s. about what the federal government might or might not do about it (except what they will charge me for not minding their own fat-*** business) ?
Those who can lose weight through normal means can exercise their own initiative, instead of waiting for the gubment to do it.
But let's take a look at the consequences of letting things go the way they're going.
You'll note that the study mentions that more low-income people tend to be obese than middle-income.
You'll also note that obesity is one of the contributing causes for type II diabetes in children:
http://www.niddk.nih.gov/patient/today/qa.htm
And there's been an explosion in type II diabetes frequency in children.
Type II diabetes is a very costly disease over the period of a life. Blindess, amputation and various other bad things happen.
...and those seemingly most at risk are the low-income people. Who's going to pay for their health care?
Why, we will, of course!
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Is this close enough?MaryAnn wrote:I see we've reverted to pictures of food...where are the naked ladies?
Where is the Elvis impersonator picture? Can't we see him adjacent to a steak or burger or .... hard boiled eggs.... or something?
MA
BTW, I am astounded that a Google search for "naked tuba steak elvis" returned 538 matches! The Internet is indeed a very weird place.Freeway will be joined by Harlot O’Hara and Lil’ Sin-Claire this weekend but unfortunately Delilah Manhandler is taking her naked tuba act out on the road.
http://www.vueweekly.com/articles/default.aspx?i=686
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- Chuck(G)
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With an "off topic" thread about obesity, what else but food or a fat Elvis would you expect? At least in this context they're relevent.MaryAnn wrote:I see we've reverted to pictures of food...where are the naked ladies?
Where is the Elvis impersonator picture? Can't we see him adjacent to a steak or burger or .... hard boiled eggs.... or something?
MA
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- ThomasDodd
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Worse still was this line:Chuck(G) wrote:Good point.
But let's take a look at the consequences of letting things go the way they're going.
You'll note that the study mentions that more low-income people tend to be obese than middle-income.
So the government is making people fat, with our money, and then asking us to pay for the medical care afterwards.People who receive food stamps are more likely to be obese compared to both eligible non-participants and higher-income individuals.
Notice to the there are eligible non-participants. I.E. people who could get food stamps and don't. And they aren't as fat as those who take the government handout.
And did you here about the Doctor that getting in trouble for telling a patient she was fat?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9063638/
He was on several morning shows.
- Chuck(G)
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Skating dangerously close to politics, but...bloke wrote: Then, they'll die sooner and that will save us a lot of money!
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bloke "who remembers (before stuff was all pergressiv 'n' sh*t) when his family was (by today's standards) 'pooooor'...No one died from obesity, and we paid all of our own doctuh beillz."
Sure, Joe, I'm with ya! If stoopid parents don't want to have their kids vaccinated against polio, measles, TB and whatever, why should we force them or provide it for free? Let them shoulder the consequences. It'll do wonders for the economy, what with wheelchair and respirator sales going up.
And fer gosh sakes, let's quit fluoridating water! Folks who want it can buy fluoridation kits. Why should the government be in the business of telling us what's good for us? Everyone knows that fluoride is a communist plot.
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I don't know if you remember the polio epidemics before the vaccines came out, but I'm old enough to remember kids with crutches and braces and iron lungs.
If the NIH studies are right, we're on a collison course with another epidemic, this time of diabetes. It's in our best economic self-interest to have a healthy population.
But I don't think it's just the food. When I was a kid, our diet, particularly during the winter months, could hardly be called "balanced". But phys ed was part of school and we got plenty of activity otherwise. Maybe that would be a starting point.
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Yeah.... remember playing 'slaughter ball'? Hmmm... I seem to remember another popular nameChuck(G) wrote:Skating dangerously close to politics, but... Sure, Joe, I'm with ya! But phys ed was part of school and we got plenty of activity otherwise. Maybe that would be a starting point.bloke wrote: Then, they'll die sooner and that will save us a lot of money!...No one died from obesity, and we paid all of our own doctuh beillz."


Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker"
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Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
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http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
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