Alternative To Lacquer

Tubaryan12 · Post by **Tubaryan12** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:02 pm

Hey Tinker, any results yet?

ken k · Post by **ken k** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:23 pm

to bring this back on topic. I assume the checmical is safe to the touch or especially if it were to get ingested by the tuba player?

ken k

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:40 pm

Tubaryan12 wrote:Hey Tinker, any results yet?

Yes... initial experiments are looking favorable. I've used Coricone to seal and old raw Conn alto sax. It's been hangine on the wall for a month now and does not show any signs of discoloration. About the piece of tubing I've been carrying around in my pocket.... there are also no signs of discoloration despite being handled quite a bit. Since it's just a sealer, there are also no scratches.... unlike lacquer.

Someone expressed toxicity. According to the MSDS, you certainly wouldn't want to expose yourself to much of the raw product. However, after it is cured it appears fine to handle.

So far, the only drawback I can see is if you would want remove the product after it is fully cured, you would have to do so with hot caustics.... sort of like some of the old Cleveland lacquers.

Soooo... the jury is still out, guys.

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:06 pm

TubaTinker wrote:Goodness, guys! It's just a 3" long piece of 1/2" brass tubing... nothing to get excited about. I wonder what kind of reaction there would have been if I had said I had a 3" diameter piece of tubing in my pocket

Does size matter?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:29 pm

sloan wrote:Does size matter?

Size always matters!

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:03 am

the elephant wrote:Man, that is one ugly chick . . .

Dan, where can one get this chemical? How much do you see it costing to do a 4/4 contrabass horn . . . roughly?

Here's the URL to the website http://www.corrotherm.com/coricone.htm

This stuff is very thin and works as a sealer instead of a coating. A gallon was about $120 by the time they tacked on the hazardous material transportation charges and UPS fees. It's available in spray cans, too... but with the minimum order cost and the transportation fees the minimum investment would have been about the same. I'm just guessing that the material cost to seal a 4/4 horn is well under $5.

sungfw · Post by **sungfw** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:52 pm

TubaTinker wrote:
Tubaryan12 wrote:Hey Tinker, any results yet?
Yes... initial experiments are looking favorable. I've used Coricone to seal and old raw Conn alto sax. It's been hangine on the wall for a month now and does not show any signs of discoloration. About the piece of tubing I've been carrying around in my pocket.... there are also no signs of discoloration despite being handled quite a bit. Since it's just a sealer, there are also no scratches.... unlike lacquer.

Someone expressed toxicity. According to the MSDS, you certainly wouldn't want to expose yourself to much of the raw product. However, after it is cured it appears fine to handle.

So far, the only drawback I can see is if you would want remove the product after it is fully cured, you would have to do so with hot caustics.... sort of like some of the old Cleveland lacquers.

Soooo... the jury is still out, guys.

Has the jury reached a verdict?

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:17 pm

sungfw wrote:
TubaTinker wrote:
Tubaryan12 wrote:Hey Tinker, any results yet?
Yes... initial experiments are looking favorable. ..... So far, the only drawback I can see is if you would want remove the product after it is fully cured, you would have to do so with hot caustics.... sort of like some of the old Cleveland lacquers.

Soooo... the jury is still out, guys.
Has the jury reached a verdict?

Heck! I thought this thread was DEAD!

Anyway... that sax body is still hanging from the ceiling and after two years doesn't show any sign of tarnish. Of course, it hasn't been handled, either.

I doubt if this product really has much future... unless you like the look of a light patina. It doesn't product the shine that lacquer does. The verdict??? well.... it looks better than total raw brass but not as good as fresh lacquer or silver.

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:26 am

schlepporello wrote:Any ideas on how or if the sound of the horn will be affected?

sungfw · Post by **sungfw** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:47 pm

TubaTinker wrote: Heck! I thought this thread was DEAD!

It's not dead yet. ... It's getting better. ... I think it's going for a walk.

Thanks for the update, TT. Guess I'll stick with getting my euph lacquered.

sungfw · Post by **sungfw** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:28 pm

Looking for something a bit more durable than hair spray.