What do you call it?

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:47 pm

Check out the Wikipedia entry for "holiday." The basis premise is that the word that comes from "holy day" has been secularized enough that the presence of the word "holi (holy)" doesn't bother people. Same thing with Christmas. It's so commercial that there's no longer any religious significance in it containing the word "christ."

IOW "Christmas" is just as politically correct as "holiday." So it can stay "christmas tree" with no problem.

Doug "who generally just calls it 'the tree'"

oldbandnerd · Post by **oldbandnerd** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:06 pm

Happy RamaHanuKwanzMas !

https://members.premiereinteractive.com ... /41408.htm

It's a Christmas tree . In my house it always had been and always will be . No P.C. crap here !!!

I wish everyone here the very merryiest TUBA/EUPHONIUM Christmas ever . !! May God Bless you all .

Dylan King · Post by **Dylan King** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:14 pm

Read the word of God concerning these trees.

Jeremiah 10
Idols and the True God

1 Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel.
2 Thus says the LORD:

Do not learn the way of the Gentiles;
Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven,
For the Gentiles are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the peoples are futile;
For one cuts a tree from the forest,
The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.
4 They decorate it with silver and gold;
They fasten it with nails and hammers
So that it will not topple.
5 They are upright, like a palm tree,
And they cannot speak;
They must be carried,
Because they cannot go by themselves.

There is no evidence that Jesus was born in the winter. Most likely he was born in the fall when the sheep were still in the fields. In addition, there isn't one birthday observance mentioned in the entire Bible. Jesus Himself gave instructions to remember Him each year with the breaking of bread on the Holy Day of the Passover.

Christmas itself comes from pagan roots, not Christ. It is full of idols and misery, all part of Satan's vast deception. It is an important ritual in the Babylonian Mystery Religion, and should not be observed by anyone who truly loves God. That goes for Easter or "Ishtar", and the Sunday Sabbath observance as well.

I know this might anger some people. But look into it and prove these facts with your own Bible. The truth can set you free.

More here...
http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/t ... 1104261794

Dylan King · Post by **Dylan King** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:47 pm

Call the truth what you will.

Obeying traditions of man seem to far more cult-like practices than a sincere will to obey the word of our Creator.

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:09 am

Damn, does this mean I'm going to get a lump of coal AGAIN for Christmas. Geez, talk about a bunch of party poopers. Now I bet you are going to tell me there is no Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. I think I'll take my ball and go home. Anybody want to came sit next to the fire while I listen to songs celebrating CHRIST, next to my CHRISTmas tree?

Chuck"who figures all things work themselves in the end, but now is just content to do well by his fellow man and keep the commandments"Jackson

tubeast · Post by **tubeast** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:29 am

To get back to topic...

Weihnachtsbaum
Christbaum

I personally own a nice one that will please members of the green party: made of two boards of plywood, about 1.5 feet tall. It features eight candle holders.

Reminds me of a very cherished family-owned item: a smaller tree and the holy family handmade in a similar way by my GrandpaÂ´s brother at the occasion of Christmas 1945. It has been set up underneath the (real) Chrismas tree ever since.

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:56 am

In my house it has become an oversized cat and toddler toy

Looks really funny, too, with no ornaments on the lower three feet!

Tubadork · Post by **Tubadork** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:25 am

Wow,
even I call it a Christmas tree. It's part of a Christmas tradition and as far as I know it's not used in any other Holiday celebrations. Are there people actually trying to call it something different?
Bill Pritchard
sure what the heck,
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all
and my favorite,
Peace on earth, goodwill toward all men

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:53 pm

We only have one child in our family and what with my son waiting until age forty to make us one, we are lucky to have him. His name is Casey. Our Christmas tree is always and will always be, Casey's tree.

Teubonium · Post by **Teubonium** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:56 pm

Back when I was growing up, the Jewish kids called it a Chanukah Bush!

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:24 pm

Yeah on the Chanukah Bush.

I'm surprised no one has commented on the Crimah Bush. Having lived in Tennessee I know what that means....heh.

MA

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:37 pm

Chuck Jackson wrote:who is to the left of most liberals, but won't budge on this one and thinks that the Ten Commandments should be posted every where ... doesn't understand why we don't drop a big ol bomb in the middle of Paris for all the French to remember who saved there asses TWICE in the past hundred years

I have a new found admiration for you Chuck.

Though I side with the Right, I like you position on all three points

I can think of few more places to drop those big bombs.

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:11 am

Got my already-assembled Christmas tree from Wal Mart. Nothing says Christmas like fiber optics.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:44 pm

"Stand maintenance"

Darned things grow like weeds.

SplatterTone · Post by **SplatterTone** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:41 am

Whatever you call it, show respect and decorate it properly.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:15 am

SplatterTone wrote:Whatever you call it, show respect and decorate it properly.

The "lights" on the tree I get, but where's the star?

SplatterTone · Post by **SplatterTone** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:52 am

but where's the star?

Where it always is. Now, it becomes clear why the wise men were following the star.

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What do you call it?

Christmas Tree?