Start a thread with pictures and a detailed description. I'm sure someone will help. I assume such a post - if placed in this thread - will be viewed by more people; for some reason unknown to me, this thread is popular.Tuboss2 wrote:My 1st valve on my Sousa is loose and I'm not sure how I can tighten it. Any ideas?
October 2007 issue. You mean this controversy has been going on that long? Where have I been. I must lead a sheltered life.the elephant wrote:
Tuboss2 wrote:My 1st valve on my Sousa is loose and I'm not sure how I can tighten it. Any ideas?
Start a thread about your valve/guide questions, then you might get some replies & most likelyTuboss2 wrote:Hm, no actual answer concerning my first vavle other then a couple. After 32 pages, can't expect much I guess.
Are you saying it's over?TubaMusikMann wrote:Start a thread about your valve/guide questions, then you might get some replies & most likelyTuboss2 wrote:Hm, no actual answer concerning my first vavle other then a couple. After 32 pages, can't expect much I guess.
some good advice too. I think most everybody is pretty much done with this thread.
I NOW PRONOUNCE THIS THREAD DEAD!!!
MAY IT REST IN PEACE
Well, that's what I did when I found out my Sousa had a water key problem. Because my Eb(below the staff) had sounded really airy and thin. No body to it at all. Didn't sound thick and fat like usual. That's how I know there was a problem. My valve is still loose, but I give up on that, just gonna wait and have a director further diagnose the problem. Just gotta adjust it while I'm playing I guess.KiltieTuba wrote:Evidently this edgy playing is just the perfect way to "play-test" an instrument
This would make me so happy. I'm going to choose to believe it.ScottAnderson wrote:bow to mr green. the geratest tubenet troll ever!
If he says he has "World Class Sound", it would validate the conclusion...Biggs wrote:This would make me so happy. I'm going to choose to believe it.ScottAnderson wrote:bow to mr green. the geratest tubenet troll ever!
Z-Tuba Dude wrote:If we think of that ultra-edgy sound as just another color on our tonal palate, do you think that it is possible to use it in situation appropriate bands, while still being able to maintain a rich, orchestral sound, in classical settings? OR, do you think that the edginess would "taint" your classical sound?
I'm pretty sure that's not what Z-Tuba Dude meant. I think he's wondering if, in the process of acquiring that "edgy" sound, one might lose the ability to play with a more refined, "orchestral-type" sound. In my opinion a really excellent player should be able to produce whatever sound is required for the gig at hand. I just don't see "really excellent players" taking gigs that require the sort of sound reproduced on some of the sound clips that have been used in this thread. One can play loud, very loud even, without being gross and unmusical. Go find some recordings of great players in different styles (Arnold Jacobs, Tubajoe (on this board), Sergio Carolina, Roland Szentpali, etc. There are many more examples) and start by trying to make your sound approximate theirs. Once you can, than you have the basis to make it your own. anyway....my .$02Tuboss2 wrote:Well, I honestly don't know about where the edgy sound would fit in a orchrestral piece. How edgy are we talkin here...VSU horsepower edgy or Auburn type edgy?
These opinions of yours might be laughable from the viewpoint of some "pros" of which you speak Kiltie. I think you should start taking a few minutes' consideration before posting nowadays... There's something going on with you friend - a frustration or anger that doesn't need to be shared, at least not with the younger and less experienced players on the site. Whatever it is that's bothering you (conscious or not) is effecting perceived value and integrity when it comes to your information/suggestions. The tubenetters who have been around a while can identify posts of value, so you're not offending those folks. These youngsters and information-seekers may come to think of you as a reliable source of advice or a voice of reason... when, in fact, it's the opposite. Perhaps in the future that might be true. Today? I'm very sorry. Not so...KiltieTuba wrote:I believe we covered this a dozen or more pages ago, but as TubeNet member rarely read everything, here goes....ppalan wrote:...I just don't see "really excellent players" taking gigs that require the sort of sound reproduced on some of the sound clips that have been used in this thread. One can play loud, very loud even, without being gross and unmusical. Go find some recordings of great players in different styles (Arnold Jacobs, Tubajoe (on this board), Sergio Carolina, Roland Szentpali, etc. There are many more examples) and start by trying to make your sound approximate theirs. Once you can, than you have the basis to make it your own. anyway....my .$02
Pete
What makes the edgy sound gross or unmusical? That's definitely a personal preference, correct?
More to the point I'm trying to make - the sound produced on these videos aren't "gigs" that are paid, they're voluntary opportunities that are enjoyable for the players and the audience. I'm sure if you brought in a "really excellent player" to one of the HBCU bands and had them play along, they would follow the style the band was playing. Sure, the "pro" might add their own twist on things, but if the "pro" is there for a gig with a HBCU band, I'm confident he/she would emulate the band's sound, so as to not be drowned out...
I think the point that many have been trying to make is that working hard on these "edgy" sounds will preclude playing any other way. Playing loud and blatissimo as a matter of daily practice is not going to help the player play in any other style *but* blatissimo.KiltieTuba wrote:More to the point I'm trying to make - the sound produced on these videos aren't "gigs" that are paid, they're voluntary opportunities that are enjoyable for the players and the audience. I'm sure if you brought in a "really excellent player" to one of the HBCU bands and had them play along, they would follow the style the band was playing. Sure, the "pro" might add their own twist on things, but if the "pro" is there for a gig with a HBCU band, I'm confident he/she would emulate the band's sound, so as to not be drowned out...
