Imus

[Tubaryan12]

Maybe Don had just finished watching the movie "Happy Feet". Considering the song "I wish" by Stevie Wonder was very prominent in it I think Don should get his job back.

Lookin' back on when I, was a little nappy headed boy"

hmmmmmmmmm

[Travelman]

As a "postscript"?, hundreds of people, for whatever reason, get fired from jobs everyday.

If they are any good, they land on their feet and start a new venture. Sometimes the change of sceneary and view is just what they needed all along.

So, I'd imagine that if Imus is as good as "they" say he still is, in spite of his lack of class and verbal control, he will be picked up by some other media venue and, in time, continue his particular brand of "entertainment". In fact, at some point, he will probably be called a "courageous hero"...

Anyway, in my final contribution on this subject (as if anyone cares...) here is a good article I just found, written by William F. Buckley Jr.:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucwb/20070413/cm_ucwb/imusdead

[rascaljim]

I never have nor do I care to listen to Imus, Stern or any of those idiots.

And, sure, I don't agree with trashing a basketball team in the way Imus did.

But what is kinda pissing me off is the fact that the short version that we all hear in the media is way more offensive than what he actually said, at least it seems that way to me.

I tried to locate the exact quote that I remember reading on Yahoo news a week ago and I can't find it anywhere, but I do recall feeling less offended when I read it. If anyone can find it it would be a nice addition to the thread.

I also think it's interesting that the reverends Jackson and Sharpton are gettin death threats now. I heard last night that one of their buildings had to be evacuated because of a bomb threat. I think some people (rightly so) are getting a little fed up of the media circus that ensues anything those two decide to spout off about race. I'm still waiting to hear them apologize for their racist comments about the Duke Lacrosse players.

Perhaps we all are taking this a little too far.

[Todd S. Malicoate]

I tried to locate the exact quote that I remember reading on Yahoo news a week ago and I can't find it anywhere, but I do recall feeling less offended when I read it. If anyone can find it it would be a nice addition to the thread.

(Taken from http://mediamatters.org/items/200704040011)

IMUS: So, I watched the basketball game last night between -- a little bit of Rutgers and Tennessee, the women's final.

ROSENBERG: Yeah, Tennessee won last night -- seventh championship for [Tennessee coach] Pat Summitt, I-Man. They beat Rutgers by 13 points.

IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and --

McGUIRK: Some hard-core hos.

IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like -- kinda like -- I don't know.

McGUIRK: A Spike Lee thing.

IMUS: Yeah.

McGUIRK: The Jigaboos vs. the Wannabes -- that movie that he had.

IMUS: Yeah, it was a tough --

McCORD: Do The Right Thing.

McGUIRK: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

IMUS: I don't know if I'd have wanted to beat Rutgers or not, but they did, right?

ROSENBERG: It was a tough watch. The more I look at Rutgers, they look exactly like the Toronto Raptors.

IMUS: Well, I guess, yeah.

RUFFINO: Only tougher.

McGUIRK: The [Memphis] Grizzlies would be more appropriate.

Hmmm...one has to wonder if Mr. McGuirk and Mr. Rosenberg still have jobs today...

I also think it's interesting that the reverends Jackson and Sharpton are gettin death threats now. I heard last night that one of their buildings had to be evacuated because of a bomb threat. I think some people (rightly so) are getting a little fed up of the media circus that ensues anything those two decide to spout off about race. I'm still waiting to hear them apologize for their racist comments about the Duke Lacrosse players.

This (understandably skeptical) tuba player thinks you will remain waiting and wanting for an apology...issues like this have a habit of evaporating from the public forum with no regrets from the provocateurs, IMO.

At least Imus has apologized on a number of public occasions and seemingly has brought some closure on the issue with the members of the team in question.

[ken k]

I agree that he can say what he wants...Yes, thank goodness, it IS a free country.

But it is also a "free" market system...and THAT will be the final judge on this thing. Either the public will stop watching and commercial sponsors will pull out...or he just takes his hand slap and gets back in the saddle (literally).

I wish all the best to the Rutgers players. From what I saw on their news conference today, they handled themselves with real class and dignity.

Here Here!! (or is it Hear, Hear!?)


I also agree that just as Imus has the right to say what he wants, so does Al Sharpton. Believe me I no Sharpton fan.

Would there have been such a big outcry had it been Rutgers's tuba section that would have been insulted? I think the only reason it got the airplay it did was because it was about sports... which seem to rule the world.

kenk

[ken k]

Al Sharpton may or may not have proper claim to the "right" to say whatever he wishes to say. His "free speech", in the past, has lead to deaths and the destruction of lives...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2 ... gle+Search

Can Don Imus "free speech" compete with this impressive record?

thank you for the link

here is an interesting quote from the wikpedia entry about this:
Some, including The Kansas City Star journalist Jason Whitlock, have criticized Sharpton for using the situation "to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda" when he should instead be focusing on other issues like the effects of hip-hop culture such as gangsta rap.[37] Whitlock further accused Sharpton and Jesse Jackson of "exploiting [the Rutger's women's basketball team], making [...] the problems much bigger than what they should be."[38]


as I said i ain't no Sharpton Ho

everyone has free speech for better or worse.....

FIRE!!!!!

k-

[TubaRay]

Would there have been such a big outcry had it been Rutgers's tuba section that would have been insulted? I think the only reason it got the airplay it did was because it was about sports... which seem to rule the world.

Certainly, sports are the king, presently, in America. I don't believe the outcry by Jackson & Sharpton would have resonated as well had it been about the tuba section, however I also don't believe they would have passed over another opportunity to try to keep a wedge between the races going. This is what they do. It is profitable to them both financially and from a power standpoint. Without this MO, what would they have, or be?

[The Big Ben]

...however I also don't believe they would have passed over another opportunity to try to keep a wedge between the races going. This is what they do. It is profitable to them both financially and from a power standpoint. Without this MO, what would they have, or be?

I believe there is a general consensus that their line of work is known as "poverty pimping", but - at least to me - Al Sharpton doesn't appear to be particularly "nappy-headed".

How times change....

Back in the late 60s/early 70s, Da Rev would have been called an Uncle Tom for having a process like that...

[chipster55]

About Imus, Jesse Jackson & Sharpton - other than the media, does anyone really give a S#%&?? If so, get a life!!

[windshieldbug]

It's not as if the Rutger's team, Rev. Sharpton, or Mr. Jackson would EVER listen to Imus, nor do ANY of their friends... so why did this become an issue in the first place?

That said, I don't think you can exactly let it slide, either, but ???

Is this worth Jersey almost losing it's governor over?

[Bowerybum]

About Imus, Jesse Jackson & Sharpton - other than the media, does anyone really give a S#%&?? If so, get a life!!

I care and have a life too. Anything's possible in America.

[chipster55]

About Imus, Jesse Jackson & Sharpton - other than the media, does anyone really give a S#%&?? If so, get a life!!

I care and have a life too. Anything's possible in America.

whatever

[Captain Sousie]

About Imus, Jesse Jackson & Sharpton - other than the media, does anyone really give a S#%&?? If so, get a life!!

I care and have a life too. Anything's possible in America.

whatever

I suppose it would be too political to say that those who are not students of history are doomed to repeat it...so I won't.

Sou

[chipster55]

I care and have a life too. Anything's possible in America.

whatever

I suppose it would be too political to say that those who are not students of history are doomed to repeat it...so I won't.

Sou

Racism & being insulted by it have become such a big industry, it makes me wish I had gone to law school -- and if you don't get the sarcasm, then "Here's your sign".

[LoyalTubist]

Broadcasting is all about making money and very little to do with content, personality, or keeping promises. I worked for CBS many years ago and we had a code of standards we had to keep, even in our offices. Most outfits dumped most of the standards (from what I've seen) and profit has been winning over what the public wants for many years. Do we really want to watch infomercials at 3:00 AM? No, we want zombie movies (heh heh, we still get them at 3 AM in Vietnam!!!)

[ken k]

I just got this forwarded email. I usually delete them rather than forward them. But this sort of was relelvant to this thread and thought I would post it here. I hope it is OK. Does anyone know anything about this writer? is this legit?

I apologize if this crosses the line of the political discussion. Sean please feel free to delete it if it is so.



New Orleans Went Under--A Black Man's Comments

Carefully read the whole article. You'll be amazed at this guy! I looked at his picture and
read it with my mouth hanging open. He says things here that no white man could ever write and keep his job as a writer .

By Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

What would you do?

What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need,
as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for
the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform legally and practically fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin, the black who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job.
The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "Recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency response plan, which acknowledged th at thousands of the city's
poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."

One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now: the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years.
The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty, not their material poverty, that cost them dearly in New Orleans. Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated for they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.

The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America."

[Tubaryan12]

It seems so. It can be found here:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=46440

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/

[ken k]

I dunno how this thread moved over to the topic of N.O. levees. I have a close relative who just retired from the Corps of Engineers. He told me the the levees had been breached an hour or two prior to all of you seeing it on the news. I called our local news station with all that I knew, but they were afraid to run the story for lack of verification.

We all know now that those levees, structurally, were b.s. (just bulldozed dirt - with virtually no reinforcement) and that those canals, structurally, were b.s. (canals were 3-piece concrete, rather than 1-piece concrete).

Still to this day, all of that remains basically the same - except for the specific parts that were breeched, destroyed, and rebuilt.

I'm not sure that many know this: The federal government, over the years, agreed to put X% $$$$$$$$$ into levee construction if the city and state put in X% $$$$$$. In other words, the federal philosophy has always been, "We'll get-r-done (however well you WANT it done), but YOU - the locals - must demonstrate to us at the federal level how much of a priority the levees are to YOU." The state/city contribution to levee construction has always been very small, so the federal portion, though geometrically greater, has always been inadequate. As many of us are quite familiar with the way the City of New Orleans (as well as many of our other cities) is run, we know that most of the local money collected for levee construction and reinforcement did not go towards levee construction and reinforcement.

Well i did not post this because it was about NOLA, but rather because our discussion in the thread commented on Sharpton and Jackson, etc. I thought this article was interesting in that the author, who is African-American, doesn't seem to like them and their entitlement stance either.

ken k

[LoyalTubist]

Hey, I came across his biography a few days ago and noticed he and I were born in the same city!
















Maybe I shouldn't tell people where I was born!

[MartyNeilan]

"Not much has changed,' said Mr. Imus, roughly thirty minutes into the program. "Dick Cheney is still a war criminal, Hillary Clinton is still Satan and I'm back on the radio!"