That's why you can't argue with Bloke!bloke wrote:' pretty political comment, and reflective of your views developed and nurtured in your socio-regional and educational upbringing.MartyNeilan wrote:The morons in the state legislature overrode the governor's veto and passed a bill to allow guns in bars and restraurants that serve alcohol. Wonder how long before it is repealed???
- I live in your state.
- I don't frequent bars.
- I don't plan to frequent bars.
- I don't frequent restaurants where "drinking alcohol" is a main feature of the establishments or where a full seated bar (with TV screens, etc.) is featured.
- An alarming number of people who frequent bars and drink hide weapons on their persons WITHOUT being legally permitted to do so.
- Due to changes in laws decades ago, a higher percentage of chronically angry/violent people walk the streets today than ever before.
- The new law specifically requires that: a/ Only permitted carriers of weapons may take them into bars and restaurants. b/ They will be breaking the law if they drink any alcohol. c/ Individual bar and restaurant owners may specifically prohibit weapons from their establishments, and ignoring these posted rules is a violation of the law.
- There definitely IS a problem with drunks brandishing weapons at bars - particularly OUTSIDE bars in parking lots.
- It is a GOOD THING that SOBER, PERMITTED carriers will be legally permitted - in dire circumstances where safely fleeing is not possible - to defend themselves from armed aggressors and/or robbers at these locations.
- As a musician who occasionally plays at establishments that serve alcohol in Tennessee, there are locations where I would feel much more comfortable (particularly in the parking lot) being armed with a handgun. However, I usually turn down jobs at establishments where any trouble is likely to occur because a/ I generally avoid potential trouble. b/ Most jobs at establishments such as this do not pay enough to be worth my while.
- It simply is NOT realistic nor sensible for law-abiding citizens to try to interact with society the same way law-abiding citizens interacted with society over forty years ago in a society that bears no resemblance to the type of society that existed in America over forty years ago.
Of course, all of the big-city newspapers in Tennessee have flooded their front sections with "articles" (ie: "columns/editorials") heavily slanted against this legislation, because the editors of these papers (along with their hires) reflect socio-regional and educational upbringing similar to yours.
fwiw, I am in possession of a Tennessee permit to carry a handgun. I scored 100% both on the written and marksmanship tests. To date, I have not used that permit. I avoid going places where I believe it would be needed.
bloke "who wishes that bars in American cities - along with the rest of American society - was as safe and as civil as it was over forty years ago"
ROTFLMAO!Matthew Gilchrest wrote:Spent some time researching squirrel removal solutions. Found one:
I would not worry about it too much. What will probably happen is every bar and restaurant owner in the state who does not wish to deal with all the legal and safety liability issues will simply prohibit firearms in their establishments. When Texas passed its "Right to carry" law, virtually every private business and every city/county government agency in the state prohibited firearms on their property. So you basically carried you permitted firearm from your home to your vehicle--and from your vehicle back to your home. In other words, a worthless piece of legislation. Now they are trying to pass a bill allowing firearms on college campuses--the bill passed in the senate but it will die in the house--WAY too much opposition to it (and way too much common sense!).MartyNeilan wrote:The morons in the state legislature overrode the governor's veto and passed a bill to allow guns in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol. Wonder how long before it is repealed???
No college/university is going to allow non-LEOs to carry firearms on campus--the safety and liability problems are way too risky and there is NO guarantee that the right split second decisions will be made (and the right people will be shot). Even if the bill was passed, it would not have survived the series of court challenges that would have followed. This bill was really about making political points; more "feel good" legislation to advance a political agenda. And by the way, people who truly intend on doing you harm RARELY EVER announce it--they just do it and consequences be damned and, most likely, you will never see it coming. In my view, the crazy ex is just playing mind games with the guy and its working--he is allowing her to control his actions. He needs to take a step back, examine the situation, and stop playing her game.schlepporello wrote:TUBAD83 wrote:MartyNeilan wrote:the bill passed in the senate but it will die in the house--WAY too much opposition to it (and way too much common sense!).
The bill has died already. But way too much common sense? Let me give you on ongoing scenario here.
There is currently an instructor in Texas who was married to a woman with mental disorders. She was relatively stable if she stayed on her medication, but has decided she doesn't need it and her actions dictate otherwise. Hercondition got to the point to where the lives of their three children were in jeopardy. He filed for divorce and filed several restraining orders against her and her new truck driver boy friend who himself has been arrested many times on Marijuana charges. She and her new beau are continually threatening this instructor with bodily harm and/or death. Every time that they do something to this instructor, he of course relays this information to the authorities, but this couple is still on the loose.
This instructor has gotten his concealed carry permit, has the understanding of the institution where he teaches and is currently carrying at least two 9mm pistols to where he teaches. However, he can't have a gun on his person all the time. There's no way he can keep one on his person concealed while he's in the classroom. He opts to keep a cannister of pepper spray at hand at all times instead. Herein lies the problem. Campus security cannot be everywhere at once and the entrances cannot be guarded as no one is willing to pay the cost for that kind of security. His ex can literally waltz right in and put a bullet in him and get away before authority can get to her. The fact that it is currently against the law for anyone to carry a firearm on a campus or into a campus building has no effect on people who have a mindset to give someone a lead overdose. The only reasonable solution is for this instructor to be alowed to defend himself, which currently under the law he cannot. He could, had this legislation passed and a couple of his students could have backed him up as well.
Yeah, Ordered a Blokepiece® a few weeeks ago straight from Houser because I need the HKoted rim. #2 top on #1 cup. WIll give the full review once it arrives.the elephant wrote:???MartyNeilan wrote:I got kicked out of the house. Again. This time it looks for real. At least my horns are with me at work. Still waiting for the arrival of my Blokepiece® to cheer me up!
Hope you had it shipped to you at work. Glad your horns are OK.MartyNeilan wrote:Yeah, Ordered a Blokepiece® a few weeeks ago straight from Houser because I need the HKoted rim. #2 top on #1 cup. WIll give the full review once it arrives.the elephant wrote:???MartyNeilan wrote:I got kicked out of the house. Again. This time it looks for real. At least my horns are with me at work. Still waiting for the arrival of my Blokepiece® to cheer me up!
Yep - emailed Dave last week to have the address changed when things were starting to go south again.Kevin Hendrick wrote:Hope you had it shipped to you at work. Glad your horns are OK.MartyNeilan wrote:Will give the full review once it arrives.
Understood -- we're "holdin' the good thought for you".MartyNeilan wrote:Yep - emailed Dave last week to have the address changed when things were starting to go south again.Kevin Hendrick wrote:Hope you had it shipped to you at work. Glad your horns are OK.MartyNeilan wrote:Will give the full review once it arrives.
All kidding aside, the horns / mouthpieces are not the top priority right now.
Consider it ground.bloke wrote:I hate to grind this into the ground
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Tuba shipping cases sometimes provide an nice, if confining alternative. (tubas REMOVED, of course)LJV wrote:In a tent down by the river?MartyNeilan wrote:There is always the possibility of trading the van (but then where would I live
My Father(and most of the other maintainence types at the refinery in my hometown) befriended a hobo who lived in the woods down by the tracks behind the plant. Dad used to take him to the doctor when he got sick and on one occaision I was tagging along. I got to see where he lived. This guy had constructed an elaborate several room house out of electric engine packing crates. These were large engines, crates probably 10X10X16. He covered the outside with whatever he could find. Cardboard for the walls and scraps of sheet metal for the roof. It was just behind the dump for the plant and he just scavenged for what he needed. No electricity water or sewer, but no bills either. Kind of reminds me of some folks who occaisionaly post here. They could probably make tuba crates work, if they were free.windshieldbug wrote: Tuba shipping cases sometimes provide an nice, if confining alternative. (tubas REMOVED, of course)
Update: I told you not to whack those guys in your own bathroom!the elephant wrote:anyone know how to remove stains from marble slab countertops?
