towards less King-spinning

The bulk of the musical talk
Post Reply
tubatooter1940
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2530
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:09 pm
Location: alabama gulf coast

Re: towards less King-spinning

Post by tubatooter1940 »

I installed push-button water keys on my first and third valve slides on my old 1940 top action three valve King besides the origonal one on the tuning slide.
I did not put one on the second valve (tiny) slide. Of course the second valve slide is the one that loads up with "condensation". Sometimes I can blow really hard and move the juice to another slide that has a drain.
If not, the old King spin (twice to port) is the only solution to remove the solution.
toots
We pronounce it Guf Coast
User avatar
ken k
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2372
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:02 pm
Location: out standing in my field....

Re: towards less King-spinning

Post by ken k »

yep that little knuckle off the 4th vavle is where 80% of the water probably collects, at least in the valves. I usually take out the 4th valve and drain it out the valve rather than do the spinning.
k
B&H imperial E flat tuba
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
User avatar
Rev Rob
3 valves
3 valves
Posts: 417
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:18 am
Location: Absarokee, Montana - South Stillwater County

Re: towards less King-spinning

Post by Rev Rob »

When I hear the gurgle, I drain the water keys, empty the slides, and if I still hear it, I will pull the valve - usually the third or fourth - and spring a blow the water that collects at the bottom of the valve case or tilt the tuba to drain any out of the tubing. I have become very adept at un-screwing my valve caps and screwing them back on.
Beginning again to be a tuba player.
1291 King Double B flat with detachable bell.
"The hills are alive, with the sound of (tuba) music."
User avatar
sloan
On Ice
On Ice
Posts: 1827
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:34 pm
Location: Nutley, NJ

Re: towards less King-spinning

Post by sloan »

I must have the only King 2341 that DOESN'T collect water there. I get lots and lots of water in the tops of the #1 and #3 slides - but I really have to work to get anything to come out of the water key at the very bottom
of the 4th slide. I have to hold the horn STRAIGHT up and down, and rock it ever so gently from side to side.

It really does amaze me how much water comes out with the top of the #3 slide - when that slide has been pointing nearly straight up the whole time! But...it does. Even more appears when I tilt it on my left knee - it just pours out of #3 (and, to a lesser extent, #1).

On the Conn 36J, on the other hand, I haven't found water collecting ANYWHERE.
Kenneth Sloan
tofu
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1998
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:59 pm
Location: One toke over the line...

Re: towards less King-spinning

Post by tofu »

Lee Stofer added a spit valve exactly like what Joe has shown here to my horn. He also added one to the third valve slide just above. While it has helped it has not eliminated the problem. When I spin it after using all the spit valves I still get an amazing amount to dump in the second valve slide. On a wonderful horn, that is a great example of the breed, this is my only complaint, but it is an annoyance that I'd like to eliminate. :roll:
User avatar
Liberty Mo
3 valves
3 valves
Posts: 269
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:26 am
Location: Liberty, MO

Re: towards less King-spinning

Post by Liberty Mo »

I had a spit valve put there as well, but it didn't completely solve the problem. The spin was still necessary after playing for an extended period.

I will also add this to the thread on horns you shouldnt have let go....sigh.

Image
Miraphone 1291-5v BBb
Conn Monster BBb
"Half of the World is Below Average"
Post Reply