The 6/4 of your dreams

[Rick Denney]

I've always thought it odd, Joe, that you comment on so many horns' poor intonation yet so many people are able to play them in tune.

1. Like all respected pros, Joe can play all those instruments in tune, and sound good doing it. But he has to take special action to achieve that good intonation, and he'd rather not.

2. Unlike you (by your own admission), Joe has actually played the CSO York.

3. He has also heard Gene play it up close.

4. I watched Gene play a hymn on the CSO York in the very low register. He adjusted the fourth-valve slide over a range of six or eight inches, moving it on nearly every note, in the half octave above the fundamental. No walk in the park, indeed.

Rick "noting that lipping notes changes their color" Denney

[Bob Kolada]

I've always thought it odd, Joe, that you comment on so many horns' poor intonation yet so many people are able to play them in tune.

1. Like all respected pros, Joe can play all those instruments in tune, and sound good doing it. But he has to take special action to achieve that good intonation, and he'd rather not.
2. Unlike you (by your own admission), Joe has actually played the CSO York.
3. He has also heard Gene play it up close.
4. I watched Gene play a hymn on the CSO York in the very low register. He adjusted the fourth-valve slide over a range of six or eight inches, moving it on nearly every note, in the half octave above the fundamental. No walk in the park, indeed.
Rick "noting that lipping notes changes their color" Denney

My quoted comment is a joke.
1. Obviously.
2. Irrelevant, since I mentioned that and then questioned how the intonation was on it and the other one.
3. I don't understand this one.
4. Whatever individuals do in that range is not indicative of a horn's overall intonation. It seems that he does not use the 5th valve on that horn very much for whatever reason (?). I am interested in (roughly) low A on up; I say A because I have played and owned tubas that have intonation problems on the 2nd partial and the 3 notes below it. Whoops...

[Timswisstuba]

I've always thought it odd, Joe, that you comment on so many horns' poor intonation yet so many people are able to play them in tune.

1. Like all respected pros, Joe can play all those instruments in tune, and sound good doing it. But he has to take special action to achieve that good intonation, and he'd rather not.

2. Unlike you (by your own admission), Joe has actually played the CSO York.

3. He has also heard Gene play it up close.

4. I watched Gene play a hymn on the CSO York in the very low register. He adjusted the fourth-valve slide over a range of six or eight inches, moving it on nearly every note, in the half octave above the fundamental. No walk in the park, indeed.

Rick "noting that lipping notes changes their color" Denney

Very well put, Rick.

[Rick Denney]

3. I don't understand this one.

It was meant to suggest that maybe Joe knows more about what Gene does and doesn't do than your post gave him credit for.

Rick "13" Denney

[Tigerreydelaselva]

What Possibility of converting the 345 CC to BBb tuba?

[Wyvern]

What Possibility of converting the 345 CC to BBb tuba?

Why would you want to do that? Many people seem to want to cut the more common BBb to a CC. If you have a 345 CC and want a BBb just put up offer to swap on here and I am sure you will soon have a taker - and get an original 345 BBb

[tubacrow]

I love my Sanders Cerveny. I cannot think of a better sounding horn, but it all depends on the player. For my purposes, this is the best 6/4 horn for me

[TheHatTuba]

What Possibility of converting the 345 CC to BBb tuba?

Why would you want to do that? Many people seem to want to cut the more common BBb to a CC. If you have a 345 CC and want a BBb just put up offer to swap on here and I am sure you will soon have a taker - and get an original 345 BBb

Or just sell it. 345 CC's, factory and cut, seem to move pretty quickly...

[sloan]

My bloke-ified Frankenstein 1934 Conn 36J (with the transplanted 20J "just a 1/2 inch too wide" top bow) is more than adequate for me. The only issue (for me...) is the need to use 1-3 for the F at the bottom of the staff (not always, only on selected pieces). It could be prettier - but I can't think of anything that might make it play better.

Well...maybe lessons...

[Michael Bush]

What is this? I am drooling all over myself and having heart palpitations?

It's a Gnagey CC. A couple of people around here have owned it. Seems like it was for sale not that long ago?

[joshwirt]

My 2012 Nirschl York CC...best one I have ever played and several others seem to agree.

[eupher61]

I'm more than satisfied with my Martin. Both bells means ultimate flexibility.

It is the jazz sound I have wanted with the front bell, and the top bell totally shocked me with the huge core gorgeous sound.

[thattubaguy]

CSO

[WilliamVance]

A Conn 26J/27J - played one and loved it more than my Holton. Although I've been interested in those short action Martin tubas...

I wasn't aware of a Martin "short-action". Any pictures or links to share?

[Z-Tuba Dude]

6/4 CC - Hirsbrunner "Yorkbrunner"
6/4 Bb - Pre-World War II Martin with 4 forward facing valves and both bells!

[Tim Jackson]

YORK #3
I love my 1912 York BBb. The rich tone blends so well, and the intonation is very good. Singing high range and deep bass!
It is very cool to take this piece of history on stage!

[Rick Denney]

DP's Holton 345

This one?

Okay, so you posted a picture from when you took delivery from Dan, what, in November? And now you show it in the case, without so much as a fingerprint?

Did you spend all that money with Dan just to look at it, or do you intend to actually remove it from that case and play it? Do we need an intervention?

Rick "prepared to confiscate all unplayed Oberloh-remanufactured Holtons" Denney

[Bandmaster]

Did you spend all that money with Dan just to look at it, or do you intend to actually remove it from that case and play it? Do we need an intervention?

Rick "prepared to confiscate all unplayed Oberloh-remanufactured Holtons" Denney

Well Rick, you can't confiscate mine. My Oberloh restored BBb 345 gets lots of use. Since I picked it up in May 2010 I figure that I have played over 45 concerts, 5 TubaChristmas get togethers, and countless rehearsals. But what I like is that I haven't had to polish it yet, with constant use the silver holds up really well with just a wipe down after use. I agree with what Dale said about the "tucked" valve body and the fit and finish on the horn. Dan moved my valves too, he does fabulous work!

And I do try to keep it out of trouble, especialy it TubaChristmases where stages tend to get a little crowded...

Well, I don't need to look for mine anymore... I already have it! Had it since last May and getting lots of compliments on how it sounds.


1966 BBb Holton 345

[oedipoes]

The one on the left in the picture, (it lets my Willson 3100 look like a small tuba...)
It could well be the 6/4 of my dreams after complete overhaul.

(in the mean time it looks pretty on my living room wall.)

Wim

[Jess Haney]

mine will be the Nirschl 6/4 BBb. I hope Walter is still producing it when I win the lotto.