Helleberg / Geib
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
Oh....Living happily unknowing while playing piston tubas with Geib
Whether they're called this or that, I seem to favor the sound I get from a
Geib style. I only have piston tubas
Whether they're called this or that, I seem to favor the sound I get from a
Geib style. I only have piston tubas
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
For what it's worth, one version of the story says it isn't the valves that matter, so much as the distance to the valves.
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
After seeing the top picture, "August" is definitely the adjective describing the tuba Mr. Helleberg is playing, as well as being his first name. So, instead of using the acronym BAT for a large tuba, if the mouthpiece is a "Helleberg," then the large tuba should be the "August."
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
I can't quite tell by the pic, but is that a humongous leadpipe on the top one?
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
All of this has made me wonder about the now infamous "Hellenberg" mpc. I remember that some folks believe it has helped them achieve a "world-class" sound. If all of that is true, and if a BAT tuba should really be known as "August," then would the Hellenberg be deserving of being called the "May" mpc.? I mean, with a Hellenberg mpc., they MIGHT be able to get that sound.iiipopes wrote: if the mouthpiece is a "Helleberg," then the large tuba should be the "August."
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
Oh ... Helen Berg? Yeah, yeah, yeah ... I remember her from college. Nice gal. Played oboe, I think ...TubaRay wrote:Haven't heard of Hellenberg?
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
TubaRay wrote:All of this has made me wonder about the now infamous "Hellenberg" mpc. I remember that some folks believe it has helped them achieve a "world-class" sound. If all of that is true, and if a BAT tuba should really be known as "August," then would the Hellenberg be deserving of being called the "May" mpc.? I mean, with a Hellenberg mpc., they MIGHT be able to get that sound.iiipopes wrote: if the mouthpiece is a "Helleberg," then the large tuba should be the "August."
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
Me just contrarywise: I play all my tubas with a very originally Helleberg copy (SSH), mostly rotarys.Lectron wrote:Oh....Living happily unknowing while playing piston tubas with Geib
Whether they're called this or that, I seem to favor the sound I get from a
Geib style. I only have piston tubas
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
I think that was the whole gist of Tuben's post!cktuba wrote:It's also a rotary valve instrument.
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
What helleberg mouthpiece are you playing on your Alexander?
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Re: Helleberg / Geib
Even if it isn't a "BAT" as we consider that term today, contemporary to the picture, that tuba is still, "August."KiltieTuba wrote:That tuba August is playing isn't a BAT. I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong), that those rotary Conn tubas were closer to a 4/4 than a 6/4.iiipopes wrote:After seeing the top picture, "August" is definitely the adjective describing the tuba Mr. Helleberg is playing, as well as being his first name. So, instead of using the acronym BAT for a large tuba, if the mouthpiece is a "Helleberg," then the large tuba should be the "August."
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