Star Wars: Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:23 pm

Doug@GT wrote:So who all got to see the Chronicles of Narnia trailer? Thoughts?

If I go see it, maybe I'll be able to learn the story beyond what I read before I got bored with the books.

I'm still afraid that it'll be too Disney-fied.

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:26 pm

Leland wrote:
If I go see it, maybe I'll be able to learn the story beyond what I read before I got bored with the books.

How far did you get?

Doug "enjoyed the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe but only made it to a few pages into The Silver Chair"

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:33 pm

Oh wow, that was a long time ago, and I hadn't hit puberty yet.. lol

I might have gotten a bit into The Silver Chair. The title sounds somewhat familiar.

My mom was into the series more than I was, though.

tjonp · Post by **tjonp** » Mon May 23, 2005 7:56 pm

Doug@GT wrote:
That said, on your comment about Leia and her mother: Remember Luke asks "Do you remember your mother--your real mother?"

Her "memories" are visions from the force. Remember, Leia had Jedi abilities, even though they weren't developed at that time.

wnazzaro wrote:
In Star Wars, Obi-Wan tells Luke that Darth Vader hunted down and killed the jedi. The only jedi Vader kills are Samuel L. (hardly) and the "younglings" (stupid name, why not Padiwans?) Ohhhh, what a bad ***, kills little kids. How much cooler if Darth Vader in full black armor really did hunt down the Jedi, instead of them being killed by Stormtroopers who turned on them? Then there would be a reason for Yoda and Kenobi to go into hiding, because Vader was so powerful, they knew he would kill them. Instead, after battling to a draw with Palpatine, Yoda says, "Go into hiding I must." Which lets Lucas check off of his list the item: "Why is Yoda on Dagobah?"

Did you miss the scene where Anakin storms into the Jedi Temple with a few thousand storm troopers? He kills all the jedi in the temple, though we only really see him killing the younglings. Later, when Obi-Wan checks the security holograms, we see Anakin fighting jedi in the temple.

The only missing links I found: episode 3 doesn't explain the mystery of Sifo-dyas, being the jedi who ordered the clone army, as mentioned in ep.2, or who erased the planet kamino from the jedi temple.

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Mon May 23, 2005 10:43 pm

It was ok, but overhyped. Oh well. Sith happens.

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:00 pm

wnazzaro wrote:
Was that information presented in the film? I don't mind extra-cinematic information and story lines, but there ought to be a reference to it in the movie, imho.

Yes. Obi-wan rips open his chest and you see a beating heart and other organs. And several close ups show his eyes and reptillian skin. General Grievous, if he was CGI, was the best-done CGI from Lucasfilm to date.

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Tue May 24, 2005 5:28 pm

SJSUW wrote:these three new episodes are lacking a sceptical/cynical character

That's what we call "the audience."

As in...

"I just paid $8.50 to see that?!?!"

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Tue May 24, 2005 6:04 pm

SJSUW wrote:My favorite scene in the movie: when Yoda went in and confronted the emperor, he waved his hands and the red guards promptly hit the wall and felt dead...

We cheered in the theatre when that happened. The second time I watched it (yes, i saw it twice--for shame!) it didn't work as well. Too rushed. Not Yoda-like.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed May 25, 2005 3:39 pm

craigpotter · Post by **craigpotter** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:41 pm

cyras21 wrote:I just saw the movie last night. I have to say there's a feeling of sadness knowing there will be no more movies to come.

yeah i just saw it today and thought it would be nice to have an Episode 3.25, 3.5 and 3.75 leading into A New Hope, but alas i don't know if they had fractions in a galaxy far far away

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Sat May 28, 2005 11:04 pm

The AJC's own movie question/answer guy, Mr. Smithee, put it best:

[quote="Mr. Smithee"]Dear Mr. Smithee,

I am a â€œStar Warsâ€

chronolith · Post by **chronolith** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:21 pm

Flaws? Actually I like it very much and I agree that there needs to be some more stuff between EpIII and EpIV. But I have to ask "why George, why?" when for the second time a wookie swinging on a rope warrants a cheese-licious tarzan jungle call?

This made me cringe - hard. I never truly forgave George for putting this pop-culture reference into EpVI during the battle in the forest.

Other than that, great!

Charlie Goodman · Post by **Charlie Goodman** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:01 pm

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Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:11 pm

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funkcicle · Post by **funkcicle** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:09 am

Now that the novelty's all worn off and i can sort of put the series into perspective, i have to say: "neat!"

What a lot of people seem to forget is that Star Wars is George Lucas' story, and sharing it with us has essentially become his life's work. The original editions still exist, and the new editions contain even more of George's story. It's a neat story and I'm glad he managed to put it to film so well.

so i'll be the first to say it, but Kudos to George Lucas!

Doug@GT · Post by **Doug@GT** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:20 am

funkcicle wrote:
What a lot of people seem to forget is that Star Wars is George Lucas' story, and sharing it with us has essentially become his life's work.

The only thing George Lucas had in his mind when he wrote these prequels was $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
and lots of it.

Dylan King · Post by **Dylan King** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:40 am

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That's entertainment!

funkcicle · Post by **funkcicle** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:37 pm

but look at how well the whole series flows together!

in the 70s/80s he made 3 crappy movies with impressive special effects, people loved it!

in the 90s/00s he made 3 more crappy movies with impressive special effects, and people love them!

Over the whole thing he's got a neat story, and the prequels certainly don't overshadow the originals with impressive writing, top-notch acting, and over-coherency...if they did, this would imo ruin the flow of the entire saga..i suspect George Lucas is a bit smarter than we think.

poomshanka · Post by **poomshanka** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:58 am

I couldn't have penned a more concise, dead-nuts-on review of this latest eyeball/eardrum/wallet raping:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... u=episode3

Maybe it would've been more bearable had I seen it in a foreign language? I felt like Glass Jaw Joe getting sucker-punched for 140 minutes by one wincingly bad piece of dialogue after another. Body blow! Body blow! Right hook! Body blow! And the visuals? To paraphrase the great Ian Malcolm - "George, just because you can doesn't mean you should". Looks like ILM took every last pixel they could sink their geeky claws into, tortured them to within an inch of their lives, then projectile vomited them directly onto the screen.

About the only props I'll give to this whole cinematic boondoggle is for the Jabba the Hutt solo from ROTJ. That and some nice licks in the original when the Sandpeople are sucking robots up into their crawler - bee-deep... BOP... bee-deep... BOP... bah-dah bahhhh bah-dah bah-dah bah-daahhhhh...

...Darth Bobo

poomshanka · Post by **poomshanka** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:03 pm

TUBACHRIS85 wrote:Jeeze, why is there soooooooOOOOOOOOoooooo much hatred to this?

Oh, I'm more or less with you on things. If you like it, fine. If you don't, fine. Insert clichÃ© here - "Different strokes for different folks", "One man's trash is another man's treasure", etc.

But why can't I feel as strongly from a "thumbs down" perspective as people do about the "thumbs up"? I'm not making any value judgements about the types of people who put it in the IMDB top 250 of all time, and talk about the movies like they're the Second Coming. If that's your bag, fine. If someone wants to dress up and camp out in line for the big opening, straight up cool with me. Hell, I'll even buy them a ticket if they're short on cash and it's *that* important to them. Not my scene, but I'm easy.

I liked it. I didn't like it. If people want to pick one or the other and call it good, cool. It *is* just a movie, after all. If folks want to start shoring it up as some kind of life-changing cultural touchstone, well then expect to hear some wisecracking dissenting opinions.

"Your mileage may vary". Personally, for me, I have a hard time identifying the target audience. Kids buying into the grade school dialogue and wooden acting? Well, I guess that might work. Of course, watching someone get his legs lopped off and burned alive might not play so well with the elementary school set. Adults who want to check out the eye candy? Well, OK, if you say. Might've been nice to redirect a small fraction of that multi-billion dollar franchise into taking some classic underlying thematic elements and overlaying some *at least* passable dialogue. Worked pretty well with LOTR, I thought.

Did I really want to like it? Sure! Did I go in with an open mind? Absolutely! Am I some fanboy whose pulse races talking about intergalactic politics? Well, not quite, but that's just me. Did I feel chumped out of 2 1/2 hours of my life that I'll never get back? Yeah. Do I feel like I got my money's worth? Nope. Do I feel like there was an opportunity wasted to do something really cool with the movie besides "tie up loose ends" and "dovetail back into the originals"? Yep.

Just opinions, that's all. Expect to hear them if you want to expand the envelope of discussion in all directions.

Flame on!!

...D

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