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I'd say Miraphone 188, $6000.

...I guess?!?!
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I’d guess that Eastman CC, the 632, would meet your criteria around $4,000.

There’s a good chance some ridiculously good deals will be coming along soon.
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Extra-fine, but no play test?

Turn of the (latest) century B&S "Musica" 5V CC for $1800. A steal at that price, too, but markets are what they are.
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PT-6P $8,500
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bloke wrote:excellent first entry, and probably darned accurate.
Thanks... Almost as if I've spent the last 15 years looking at these same tubas... :oops:
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THE TUBA wrote:PT-6P $8,500
This thread disagrees...

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bort wrote:I'd say Miraphone 188, $6000.

...I guess?!?!
There's a fresh For Sale post for one of these. We can put a timer on it.
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Olds O-99 @ $1800.
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Conn 25J for $1,000
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nworbekim wrote:new style King 2341 $3500
Norm Epley has a new style King 2341 in silver for $3500, posted on April 3rd:

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186, old-style with small lead pipe, 16 1/2 inch bell, and "S" linkage; if cleaned and not too dented up: $3000.
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Mark Finley wrote:
MN_TimTuba wrote:Olds O-99 @ $1800.
3 valve? no way. I had a 4 valve that I bought for 600 and sold for 800
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Guessing, because I have neither studied nor tested the market.

Hirsbrunner HBS-193, $10K, but it may take more than a week to find a Bb tuba player willing to spend what it's worth. ($25K new.)

Eastman EBB-534, $3200.

B&S PT-9 (Symphonie bore and design) six-valve F tuba: $4000.

Yamaha YFB-621: $4000.

Holton BB-345: $5000.

Besson New Standard (or something like that) euphonium: $1500 in good condition (maybe); $600 in current (playable but ugly) condition.

Conn 14K Sousaphone: $800.

Conn 48H straight tenor trombone: $400.

Olds Ambassador straight tenor (dual bore) trombone: $200.

Not that 1.) I would price them thusly, 2.) insured them for these amounts, or 3.) any are for sale.

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hrender wrote:At this point in time, the only price that guarantees an immediate sale for any horn would have to be ridiculously low.
Yeah. Even with that, there has to be an awareness factor applied. Cool kids are buying up these Eastman horns, and resale risk gets mitigated when a horn is en vogue.

The older 186 BBb Miraphone mentioned prior is probably worth $3,000, but it's not cool and per bloke's conditions, to sell it in under a week, I think you've got to price it around $2,000.

It's an interesting marketplace for sure. Tubas last a darn long time, so a lot of good horns are already out there and are serviceable. Now there is this flood of well-made Chinese clones or inspired-by horns that can be bought really cheap. Interesting market dynamics, that's for sure.
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I think with the rules here - within a week and untested - it has to be a horn that has a reputation for being all-around solid and THEN the price has to be low enough that with shipping factored in, the buyer is confident he could re-sell it quickly at his cost or a slight profit. Someone has to be willing to jump in headfirst without looking.

TO THAT END. From recent transactions I've seen:

PT6 rotor - $8,500
Miraphone 186CC, 1960s vintage, sans Bloke-mods, $4,500, maybe $5,000 ($3,500 does it within a day)

Some best guesses of random horns that popped into my head as considered desirable:
Hirsbrunner HB2P - $6,500 (could sell higher, but not within a week without testing)
Yamaha YFB822 - $7,000 (though I wonder whether $7,000 is ever a within-a-week-without-testing price, regardless of horns)
B&S Symphonie model - $4,500

Disclaimer: I do not buy or sell horns often. This is just based on looking through the For Sale section occasionally.
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hrender wrote:At this point in time, the only price that guarantees an immediate sale for any horn would have to be ridiculously low.
Depends on the tuba. For something that is either rare, uncommon, or just desirable, I think the price just has to be "good", and not ridiculously low.
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I wonder what price it would take to move a Gronitz PCK in this kind of time? Seems like there are perpetually about 4 or 5 of these for sale, in the $12-14k range...
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bort wrote:I wonder what price it would take to move a Gronitz PCK in this kind of time? Seems like there are perpetually about 4 or 5 of these for sale, in the $12-14k range...
In a week with people offloading Eastman York clones for $8,000 or so? Probably $8,500?
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I’ll do my own as well...why not?!?

“Extra fine” condition, no play-test, sold in a week:

Alexander 163 CC, 4 rotor : $3750
Alexander 163 BBb, 4 rotor : $3500
Meinl Weston 45-SLP: $4000

I’d bet my “good” mouthpieces would fly off the shelf at about $50 each with no questions asked, too. Gig bags for $125 would probably go in less than a day.

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I will be happy to buy bloke's F tuba for $4k.

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